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AROOO’s Secret Sex Counselling Service : What’s the real difference between an FWB and a partner?

AROOO’s Secret Sex Counselling Service : What’s the real difference between an FWB and a partner?

Today's Expert 'Ev’Yan Whitney'

3min
AROOO’s Secret Sex Counselling Service : What’s the real difference between an FWB and a partner?

Hi Roomies, I’m Ev’Yan!

Introducing Ev’Yan Whitney

Ev’Yan is a sexuality educator, therapist and writer from the United States. They are communicating with people all around the world through their podcast and book ‘Sensual Self’. 120,000 followers on instagram are also tuning in to Ev’Yan’s stories and advice.

Creating the role of ‘Sexuality Doula’?

In 2014, Ev’Yan coined the term "Sexuality Doula" and pioneered learning and healing methods. A doula is not a healthcare provider, but rather a trained and experienced companion, usually for pregnancy and childbirth. They are a person who is dedicated to taking care of both the body and the mind of a mother during childbirth. A new life needs a lot of help to make it’s way into the world in a safe and healthy way. Ev’Yan’s idea is that a person’s sexual self can also require guidance and support to develop and thrive.

Ev’Yan's role is to guide individuals to let go of their fear and find stability and reach pleasure when exploring their desires.

We compiled some of our Roomie’s most common questions about desire and relationships, and Ev’Yan gave us the answers!

I don’t really want to have sex with my boyfriend.. he’s got a good body but still. Do I just not have a libido or something.. - Hidden Roomie 1
Roomies! Before having sex I thought that I had a lot of desire but then when I actually do it I kind of feel like.. ‘what’s the big deal’ ‘I’m not really turned on’. Is sex really that great…? I feel like I enjoy fantasizing or watching porn more Does anyone else feel the same?

- Hidden Roomie 2

🙋‍♀️ : It’s not all binary! When it comes to sex one of the biggest and most common pinpoints that I get from folks is that they do not know how to be in their bodies fully when they're having sex.

This is something that I see a lot with my women and non-binary clients where, because they have been sort of groomed to be these subservient, quiet, docile, submissive beings and because they have been told over and over again that their pleasure is too complicated or that they're not meant to take up too much space within this sexual interaction that it's all about your partner's pleasure particularly if that partner's a man or masculine of center.

We have to do a lot of work to dismantle and unpack a lot of those narratives that folks are walking around with without even knowing.

I've worked with clients recently who come to me being like “there's nothing wrong with me. I just don't want to have sex and I don't really have that high of a sex drive.”… not everybody is sexual and folks experience sexuality, sexual desire and attraction in a varying amount of ways and they're not wrong for that it's just we're different. (With my clients) we work through it and sometimes they're actually on the ace spectrum, and that gives them a bigger space possibility to be sexual or to be sensual or to experience pleasure and intimacy with themselves and their partners rather than this very binary degree or ‘you’re sexual or you're not’.

Roomies... what is FWB?? - Hidden Roomie 1
Has anyone ever become a couple after starting as fwb? What’s the ending for a fwb relationship? - Hidden Roomie 2
As long as it's not a weird person, it doesn't matter if it's a partner, friend, lover… but how do you know if they’re a weird person or not?

How can I distinguish those things and how can I recognized the right person? - Hidden Roomie 3

🙋‍♀️ : I feel like it depends on the person, right? But…

I mean I think that when it comes to one-night-stands, friends with benefits, the needs are similar but some of them are different right? Like if you are having sex with someone that you only want to see once or twice or want to have a casual sort of situation with your needs might be different or they might be the same.

After you have a sexual experience the differences are in the way that you're treated or in the way that you want to be treated or connect to your partner after sex, with a romantic relationship versus someone that you just had a one night stand with.

I feel that this idea of caring for or feeling cared for or feeling safe, that there's consent conversation involved. I kind of feel like even if it's not the situation with a romantic partner or even if you are doing a sort of one-night-stand casual thing, it's really important to think about these larger questions of like “what do I need to feel safe?”

What kind of conversations do I want to have with this partner that I'm hooking up with to make sure that we're on the same page when it comes to consent? What sort of things do I feel comfortable to reveal about myself so that this person can know a bit about my background? particularly if I am someone who has experienced sexual trauma and violence? What kind of depth and emotional intelligence do I want this person to have so that when we are interacting with each other it feels like a space where we can both have a good time?

I still remember what that person said on our first night I was so traumatized, I can't even look men in the face now - Hidden Roomie 1
I’ve started to really like someone... If we date do we have to do it..? I have a trauma about sex so I’m really worried about it. - Hidden Roomie 2

🙋‍♀️ : Trauma is really complex.

I really want to stress the importance of going to therapy. And I say that as someone who has experienced sexual trauma and who has been in therapy for a long time working through that. Therapy is so important, and it's something that I'm always talking to my clients and my students about. Like I have no shame talking about the fact that I'm in therapy. And I just I think it's such an important thing to invest in.

The trauma that we've experienced might have been in isolation but we don't have to heal from it in isolation. It's okay to ask for help. It's okay to ask for support. It's okay to need help and support.

I've worked with people in the past to have been like “this act, this act of violation happened a number of years ago. I don’t know why I still feel the way that I do about it, I should be over it by now”. And I really just want to give folks permission, that it's okay for this to still be a thing that you need help for and it's okay to ask for support.

I think one of the bigger mistakes that I've made in my own healing personally is that when it came to trying to understand my own sexual issues, I was going straight to like logical thinking. Like, let me just read a book… But I also think that we need to make space for the intelligence and inherent wisdom of our body. Because sex happens with our bodies. Trauma happens to our bodies. So, it would make sense that the body is informed through that process of healing. Maybe that means targeting those specific areas of your body that are holding that tension, holding that trauma, holding that shame … getting into some kind of yoga practice or movement practice, dance, walking, something that allows your body to move and find some spaces where it can be free.

I just want folks who have experienced sexual trauma to know that they're not alone. That what happened to them is not their fault and that there are so many people who are ready and willing to support them through this, that they don't have to search for those answers or try to heal themselves by themselves.


References
나의 성욕에 문제가 있다고 느낀 적...

연애 감정 없이 섹스만 하는 친구 사이(fwb), 나는...

가장 선호하는 연애 스타일은?

  • user thumbnale
    숨어있는 자기 1

    너는 성욕이 없어서 날 너무 힘들게 해. 라며 죄책감을 심어주는 사람과 연애한 적이 있었어요. 그때는 내가 잘못된 건가 싶고 미안하기도 했었어요. 연인이라면 당연히 하고싶은 사람의 의견을 먼저 들어주는 게 맞다고도 생각했었는데. 단순히 있다 없다 문제가 아니라는 걸 알았다면 다른 방법을 찾아볼 수도 있지 않았을까… 아쉬움이 🥲

    2022.10.20좋아요8
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    반전있는 오로라

    지금 딱 연인과 fwb 차이가 뭘까 고민하고 있는 와중에 넘 적절한 글...♡ 그 사람과 이야기를 해봐야겠어요. 관계에 대한 정리가 필요해요!! fwb가 가능하다고 생각했던 사람인데 지금은 또 잘 모르겠네요...

    2022.10.20좋아요16
    • user thumbnale
      숨어있는 자기 13

      제가 지금 같은 고민인데.. 혹시 이야기하고 어떻게 되셨나요??

      2023.04.29좋아요0
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      반전있는 오로라

      음... 남자 쪽에서 애매하게 구는 거.. 그냥 저랑 연애 생각이 없는 거였어요ㅎㅎ

      2023.04.30좋아요1
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      숨어있는 자기 13

      하.. 저도 그런 것 같네요.. 그간 해왔던 애정표현이며 스킨십이며 먼저 마음 흔들어놓고선 그냥 나를 갖고 놀았던 건가, 자존감만 곤두박질치고 있어요

      2023.05.03좋아요2
  • user thumbnale
    숨어있는 자기 2

    와 글 너무 좋아요.. 기다렸어요 한국에도 이런 분이 많아졌으면 좋겠어요

    2022.10.20좋아요4
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    숨어있는 자기 3

    💘좋아요

    2022.10.20좋아요3
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    숨어있는 자기 4

    진짜 도움 되는 글이다

    2022.10.21좋아요1
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    숨어있는 자기 5

    나쁘게만 봤었는데 그건 아니었네요 ...

    2022.10.21좋아요1
  • user thumbnale
    숨어있는 자기 6

    진짜 자기만의방 최고인더ㅠ같아요....

    2022.10.21좋아요2
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    숨어있는 자기 7

    예전에 아는 오빠랑 한번 하고나서 서로 잘맞아서 사귀진않고 섹파로 남았던 기억이 있는데..(남친없었을때입니다!!!)하면서도 약간 죄책감? 같은게 들더라구요ㅠ 내가 이상한가...하고... 친구랑 얘기해봐도 그럴수있다 본인도 그런적있다고 하는데도 제 마음이 이해가 안되서 금방 정리했었던 기억이 있네요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 나쁘다기보단 그냥 생각의 차이..? 받아들이는 차이라고 생각하지만 애인이 있다면...🤬

    2022.10.22좋아요4
  • user thumbnale
    숨어있는 자기 8

    이런 칼럼이 많아지면 좋겠네요!

    2022.10.24좋아요2
  • user thumbnale
    숨어있는 자기 9

    어차피 가치관 다르면 이해 못하겠지만 fwb와 연애는 아예 별개라고 생각해요. 그 사이 경계 잘짓고 선넘지 않는 관계라면, 연애할때 이전의 파트너와 정리를 깔끔하게 잘한다면 문제될거 하나없죠! 딱 욕구만 푸는거랑 사랑섹스는 다르니깐요 ㅎㅎ

    2022.10.25좋아요5
  • user thumbnale
    춤추는 울프

    사랑하지 않는 사람과 하고 싶지 않아요. 관계 후의 케어나 나의 감정 기분이 좋지 않을 것 같다는 생각도 들고... 아직은 그래요.

    2022.10.26좋아요5
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    유래없는 새벽

    파트너면 파트너 연인이면 연인 이게 좋은 거 같아요 fwb라는 관계를 경험해봤는데 굉장히 애매해요 결국 목적은 잠자리 같아서 친구보단 파트너라는 느낌이 !

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    숨어있는 자기 10

    fwb..편하고 나쁘지 않지만 괜히 저는 상대가 신경 쓰이게 되는거같아요 .. 좋아하는 감정도 아니고 무슨 감정인진 모르겠지만 그걸 신경쓰는 내가 싫어서 이사람이랑 진짜 속궁합이 너무너무너무 맞는거 아니면 안할거같아옹 ~

    2023.01.09좋아요4
  • user thumbnale
    숨어있는 자기 11

    지금 서로 합의하고 fwb관계로 지내는 사람이 있는데 정말 애매해요. 다른 댓에서도 언급된 거처럼 굳이 따지면 연인보단 파트너에 가까운 거 같아요.

    2023.04.13좋아요1
  • user thumbnale
    숨어있는 자기 12

    진짜 너무 도움되는글ㅠㅠ

    2023.04.15좋아요0
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  • user thumbnale
    다가오는 솜사탕

    오케이. 글 읽자마자 정했어. 나 니랑 엪덥 못해!!!

    2023.06.11좋아요1
  • user thumbnale
    숨어있는 자기 14

    지금 fwb관계인 친구가 있는데 저는 너무 만족하고있어요. 일단 성향(주종관계) 도 잘 맞고 상대친구가 배려심이 많고 대화도 잘 하는 편이라 사로 하고 싶었던 체위,상황극,기구 등등 아주 마음껏 하고 있답니다. 그냥 파트너 사이와는 다르게 확실히 그냥 누구보다 친하게 만나서 놀고 맛있는거 먹고 관계하면서 만나고 있는게 개인적으로 올해 한 일중에 이 친구를 만난게 제일 잘 한 일이라고 생각해요~

    2023.06.30좋아요0
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  • user thumbnale
    숨어있는 자기 15

    저고 지금 fwb 있는데 애매하긴 해요… 연인처럼 할 거 다 하는데 데이트도, 연락도, 섹스도. 근데 연인은 아니에요! (오늘 하루 어땠어 이런 일상 안부 묻고 연락해서) 섹파는 아닌 것 같은데 또 섹파인 것 같기도 하고 그런 느낌입니다…

    2023.07.12좋아요9
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    숨어있는 자기 16

    fwb 있으면 좋을 듯 관계를 하다보면 없던 호감과 사랑? 도 생길 것 같아요

    2023.10.14좋아요0
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    완성된 아기물새

    예전엔 fwb가 가능하다고 생각했는데 당시 방황하며 혼란스러운 시기를 보내고 있어서 그랬던 것 같아요. 멘탈이 안정되니 저에게는 보통의 연인관계가 제일 최고라는 걸 깨달았어요 ㅎ

    2023.11.20좋아요0
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    숨어있는 자기 17

    저는 현재 fwb 있는데 좋아용 의무적인 연락이나 만남을 싫어하는 편이라 어떠한 의무도 없다는 게 좋구여. 둘이 만나서 대화할 땐 끅끅댈정도로 웃긴 일도 많아서 그런거 보면 오로지 파트너라기보다는 확실히 친구 느낌도 있으면서 서로 원하는 섹스를 할 수 있어서 좋아요. 연인 관계일 땐 별로 안 하고 싶어도 섹스마저 의무적으로 해야할 때가 있는데 요건 맘이 깊지 않아서 그에 비해 자유로운 것 같아요.

    2023.11.29좋아요0
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    숨어있는 자기 18

    fwb가 참 애매한건 ,상대에게 연인이 생겼을때 ,그때 알게되는 내감정도..

    2023.12.12좋아요4
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    숨어있는 자기 19

    fwb 라는걸 많이 보긴 봤는데 이런 뜻이었구나

    2024.03.10좋아요0
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    숨어있는 자기 20

    본문의 댓글중에 섹스전이 더 흥분된다는 얘기 너무 공감했어 섹스 중반에는 생각보다 흥분이 안되는데 뭐가 문제인걸까?

    2024.03.21좋아요0
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    숨어있는 자기 21

    섹파가 있던 애인 그걸 알 게 되었을 때 그 마음 다 정리하고 나한테 왔다고 해도 두고두고 잊지 못 할 감정... 하지 마요 이런 거

    2024.05.26좋아요0
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    숨어있는 자기 22

    감정이 없는데 어떻게 흥분하지...상대가 나한테 관심없다는 생각이 들면 달아오르지 못하는 타입이라 불가능...

    2024.06.05좋아요0
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    숨어있는 자기 23

    애초에 fwb 자체가 불건전한 관계인거 아닌가 ㅋㅋ; 결혼할 때 배우자가 그런 짓 했다는 거 알면 정말 정내미가 다 떨어질듯 전 절대 안해요

    2024.06.07좋아요1
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    숨어있는 자기 24

    뭐야 댓글 왜이래; 본인들이 뭔데 해라 마라에요...그저 상호존중 + 합의로 여러 관계가 있을수 있는건데...남이 하지마라 이러는게 진짜 웃김ㅜ 이러니까 사람들이 속으로 앓고 말도 못하지...

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